{"id":3312,"date":"2020-11-03T08:24:36","date_gmt":"2020-11-03T08:24:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/?p=3312"},"modified":"2020-12-14T15:03:26","modified_gmt":"2020-12-14T15:03:26","slug":"why-do-police-shoot-to-kill","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/why-do-police-shoot-to-kill\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Do Police Shoot To Kill? They Don&#8217;t!"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhy Do Police Shoot To Kill?\u201d (Spoiler Alert: They Don\u2019t)<\/span><\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It seems like we can\u2019t go even a few days without some controversy brewing up in the media about police use of force. The police can (and do) use lethal force to protect us from the recklessly violent portions of society. The perceptions of how that lethal force is used, though, can occasionally cause problems with society as a whole. Let\u2019s take a look at what handguns actually do when used to stop an attacker, and what effect that has on how the police and armed citizens use them to defend a life.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">American law enforcement is exceptionally well trained. There is a gap, however, between what some people believe law enforcement should do, and what is possible in a defensive situation. The cries of \u201cWhy do police shoot to kill?\u201d need to be countered with a cold, hard look at what happens in a defensive gun encounter.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One of the tasks of law enforcement is to end a violent encounter as quickly as possible, using an appropriate amount of force. The more time that a person can commit violence, the greater the danger to the general populace. That reality drives law enforcement training, including the use of lethal force.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What Pistols Can and Can\u2019t Do<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_3319\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-magnific_type=\"image\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3319\" class=\"wp-image-3319 size-medium\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"Shoot for upper center torso\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-1024x574.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-768x431.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-1536x861.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-610x342.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-1080x605.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill-627x352.jpg 627w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_to_kill.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3319\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">It&#8217;s going to take multiple hits to stop an attacker, and getting those hits under stress is quite a challenge.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Let\u2019s begin by looking at the pistols and ammunition in common use in America and what they actually do. Greg Ellifiritz is a writer, firearms trainer and former Ohio police officer. In 2011, he compiled <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.buckeyefirearms.org\/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a list of defensive gun encounters based on publicly-available accounts<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. The list is from a variety of sources, not just law enforcement shootings, and includes data on the use of pistols, rifles and shotguns in a gunfight.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The data on pistols is particularly interesting. A pistol is the primary defensive firearm for law enforcement, just as it is for the armed citizen. It\u2019s the gun that we are most likely to have nearby if we need to stop a lethal threat. According to Ellifritz\u2019s data, however, it is not that effective when compared to a rifle or a shotgun.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n<table id=\"tablepress-22\" class=\"tablepress tablepress-id-22\">\n<thead>\n<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><\/td><th class=\"column-2\">.380 ACP<\/th><th class=\"column-3\">.38SP<\/th><th class=\"column-4\">9mm<\/th><th class=\"column-5\">357 Mag\/ <br \/>\nSig<\/th><th class=\"column-6\">40 S&amp;W<\/th><th class=\"column-7\">.44 Mag<\/th><th class=\"column-8\">.45 ACP<\/th><th class=\"column-9\">Avg<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody class=\"row-striping row-hover\">\n<tr class=\"row-2\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><strong># of People shot<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><center>85<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-3\"><center>199<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-4\"><center>456<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><center>105<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-6\"><center>188<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-7\"><center>24<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-8\"><center>209<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-9\"><center>181<\/center><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-3\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><strong>% of fatal\u00a0 hits\u00a0<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><center>29%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-3\"><center>29%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-4\"><center>24%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><center>34%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-6\"><center>25%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-7\"><center>26%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-8\"><center>29%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-9\"><center>28%<\/center><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-4\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><strong>Avg, #\u00a0 of rounds to incapacitate<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"column-2\">1.76<\/td><td class=\"column-3\">1.87<\/td><td class=\"column-4\">2.45<\/td><td class=\"column-5\">1.7<\/td><td class=\"column-6\">2.36<\/td><td class=\"column-7\">1.71<\/td><td class=\"column-8\">2.08<\/td><td class=\"column-9\">1.99<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-5\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><strong>% of 1 shot stops<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><center>44%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-3\"><center>39%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-4\"><center>34<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><center>44%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-6\"><center>45%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-7\"><center>59%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-8\"><center>39%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-9\"><center>43%<\/center><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-6\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><strong>Accuracy (head and torso hits)<\/strong><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><center>76%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-3\"><center>76%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-4\"><center>74%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><center>81%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-6\"><center>76%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-7\"><center>88%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-8\"><center>85%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-9\"><center>74%<\/center><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-7\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><strong>% incapacitated by 1 shot to torso or head <\/strong><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><center>62%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-3\"><center>55%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-4\"><center>47%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><center>61%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-6\"><center>52%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-7\"><center>53%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-8\"><center>51%<\/center><\/td><td class=\"column-9\"><center>54.%<\/center><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a comparison, according to Ellifritz\u2019s data, one shot from a rifle to the head or torso stopped an attack 81% percent of the time. One shot from a shotgun to the head or torso stopped 84% of the listed attacks. A long gun like a rifle or shotgun is much more effective, but it\u2019s hard to carry one around with you all day long.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s important to note here this data does not take into account bullet type used. The rounds used in these pistols could be <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/what-is-full-metal-jacket-ammunition\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">FMJ practice ammo<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> or <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/what-is-jhp-ammunition\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">JHP defensive ammo<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. However, looking at these 1400+ encounters, a few things become quite clear.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There is a very good chance it will take more than one pistol bullet to stop an attacker.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Accuracy is fairly consistent: Three out of four shots that hit the attacker are going to hit the head and torso.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If an attacker is going to be stopped, it\u2019s because of a hit to the torso or head. Incapacitation rates jump up significantly once the torso and chest are targeted.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why Police Shoot The Way They Do<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_3320\" style=\"width: 228px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-magnific_type=\"image\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3320\" class=\"wp-image-3320 size-medium\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-218x300.jpg\" alt=\"Shoot them in the leg\" width=\"218\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-218x300.jpg 218w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-743x1024.jpg 743w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-768x1058.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-1115x1536.jpg 1115w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-610x841.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-1080x1488.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg-627x864.jpg 627w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/shoot_them_in_the_leg.jpg 1161w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3320\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The leg is much smaller target than the human torso, and it&#8217;s moving a lot more as well.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I reached out to <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lonestarmedics.com\/aboutpage\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Caleb Causey of Lone Star Medics<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in order to get a better understanding why hits to the torso incapacitate more frequently than hits to the extremities. Caleb is a former Army Medic and has worked as an EMT and SWAT medic. I talked with him about why law enforcement officers and armed citizens are both trained to shoot at the upper center torso rather than just shooting someone in the leg.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cPhysiologically, the object of shooting at an attacker is to stop them from hurting others. We want to completely stop the threat of violence as quickly as possible,\u201d he said. \u201cThat means shutting down the brain\u2019s ability to keep the body in the fight. The goal of the blood loss is to switch off the brain or disrupt the brain.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cMarksmanship becomes much more difficult in a high-stress situation,\u201d Causey continued. \u201cThe adrenaline hits our body, and that means it\u2019s difficult to accomplish delicate tasks like a stable sight picture and a smooth trigger press. We can\u2019t rely on the police or anyone else making a shot on a small target like a limb or a hand. We have to train to take the shot that has the best chance of hitting the target and being effective. This means we need to aim for the center-chest portion of the torso.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIn addition to this,\u201d Causey went on, \u201climbs move much more than the upper chest and are smaller targets. This makes them much harder to hit when your heart is pumping and everything is shaking, trying to deal with all the adrenaline in your veins. Even a good, solid hit in the leg or arm won\u2019t stop the attacker from attacking. A hit there will only limit the attacker\u2019s movement or use of that limb. Even if the round severs a major artery in an extremity,\u00a0 Internal bleeding in a limb or pelvis won\u2019t cut off blood flow to the brain and shut down the attack. The best way to accomplish that is to hit the pumping station, the heart and lungs in the center of the chest.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why Do Police Shoot To Kill? They Don\u2019t!<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The question to ask isn\u2019t \u201cWhy do police shoot to kill?\u201d The question to ask is, \u201cWhat\u2019s the fastest way that the police can stop a lethal attack while minimizing the risks to innocent bystanders?\u201d Once we ask that question, we begin to see that just \u201cshooting them in the leg\u201d is no longer a viable option, and aiming for the center-chest is the best option for law enforcement as well as the armed citizen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWhy Do Police Shoot To Kill?\u201d (Spoiler Alert: They Don\u2019t) It seems like we can\u2019t go even a few days without some controversy brewing up in the media about police use of force. 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