{"id":520,"date":"2019-06-25T11:46:42","date_gmt":"2019-06-25T11:46:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/?p=520"},"modified":"2020-06-29T16:22:53","modified_gmt":"2020-06-29T16:22:53","slug":"getting-started-with-red-pistol-dot-sights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/getting-started-with-red-pistol-dot-sights\/","title":{"rendered":"Red Dot Pistol Sights For Beginners"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A Beginner&#8217;s Guide To Red Dot Pistol Sights <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Red dot sights on pistols have been a feature in competitive pistol shooting since the mid-&#8217;90s. Competitors quickly grasped how a red dot can help with accuracy and fast transition from target to target. <\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The size and bulky shape of those first red dot sights slowed their adoption into the concealed carry world. However, in the last five years or so, pistol mounted red dot optics have really come into their own. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many manufacturers, such as Glock and Nighthawk, offer concealed carry pistols with pre-drilled mounts for a red dot sight. Others, such as Sig Sauer and Smith &amp; Wesson, offer complete pistol\/red dot sight combinations that are ready to go right out of the box.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What Is A Red Dot Sight &amp; How Does It Work?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First off, let\u2019s be clear that when we talk about adding a red dot sight to a pistol, we are really talking about a reflex sight, where the dot is the result of the light from a light emitting diode (LED) being projected and then reflected onto a partially silvered piece of glass. If you\u2019ve ever shined a flashlight into a car window and had some of the light bounce off and some of it pass through and light up the interior, you get the idea of how a reflex sight works. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A reflex sight works well as a sighting device because the light the LED emits is usually in a tight spectrum, so the silver reflective coating on the sight window needs to reflect only a narrow band of light, allowing everything else to pass through. This results in a clear, easy to see through window that has a small red dot floating in it, waiting for you to line it up with your target.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Where To Start With Red Dots<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_522\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-magnific_type=\"image\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-522\" class=\"wp-image-522 size-medium\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-300x230.jpg\" alt=\"Steve Fisher of Sentinel Concepts\" width=\"300\" height=\"230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-300x230.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-768x590.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-1024x786.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-610x468.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-1080x829.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting-627x481.jpg 627w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/steve_fisher_shooting.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-522\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Steve Fisher, aka Yeti, of Sentinel Concepts<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Getting into the red dot game requires a commitment of resources and training time. For some, that investment is worth the time and money. For others, their time is better spent doing dry fire practice in order to overcome snatching the trigger, or another fundamental pistol marksmanship skill. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To help guide your decision of whether to go red dot or not, we reached out to two of the masters of training gun owners in the use of red dot pistols: Steve Fisher of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/sentinelconcepts.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sentinel Concepts<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0and Scott Jedlinski of <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.modernsamuraiproject.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Modern Samurai Project<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Both are recognized experts on the advantages and disadvantages of the red dot. I asked them for their advice and guidance on the best options for red dots on pistols, and why someone would (or would not) want a red dot sight. <\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Is A Red Dot Pistol Sight Right For You?\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_523\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-magnific_type=\"image\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-523\" class=\"wp-image-523 size-medium\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski-300x294.jpg\" alt=\"Scott Jedlinski explaining red dot techniques\" width=\"300\" height=\"294\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski-300x294.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski-768x751.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski-610x597.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski-627x613.jpg 627w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/scott_jedlinski.jpg 831w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-523\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Scott Jedlinski, aka &#8220;Jedi,&#8221; of The Modern Samurai Project<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThere are three reasons to look at switching to a red dot as your primary optic,\u201d said Jedlinski. \u201cFirst, if your eyesight is starting to fail: Looking at one focal plane (the target and the dot) is easier to do than looking at than three focal planes, (the target, the front sight and the rear sight) and then trying to sort out which one should be in focus at any given moment. Secondly, if you have good eyesight, a red dot allows you to engage targets at longer distances than with iron sights. Lastly, because the red dot floats out in space, you see more of your target: The pistol sights are not covering the lower half of your field of view.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI first used a red dot in competition,\u201d says Fisher. \u201cI realized that all the features that made it a good choice for a competition pistol, such as fast sight acquisition on the target and improved accuracy, applied to the self defense world as well. There\u2019s a learning curve associated with getting quick, accurate shots, and a lot of the techniques used with iron sights will need to be adjusted for use with a red dot.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Which Red Dot \/ Gun Combo is Best For Beginners?\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cStart with what you know,\u201d says Fisher. \u201cIf you\u2019ve carried a Glock 19 for years, start with a Glock and a red dot. You\u2019ll be learning new techniques to master the red dot. There is no reason to learn how to run a new gun at the same time.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201dI\u2019ve been running red dots on my carry pistols since 1999, when I started out with a Tasco Optima 2000 on a S&amp;W 5906,\u201d Fisher said. \u201cRight now, the ones I recommend most are the Trijicon Type 2 RMR and the Holosun 507C. As for dot size, a 6.5 MOA dot works for some and others find a 3.25 MOA dot is best. There is also a 1 MOA dot available if you\u2019re looking for the last word in precision shooting.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI recommend three brands,\u201d says Jedlinski. \u201cThe Trijicon RMR, Leupold DeltaPoint, and the Holosun 507C. As for dot size, look at getting something between a 4 MOA dot and a 2 MOA dot. Anything larger than 4 MOA, you\u2019re going to run into issues with the dot obscuring the target at longer ranges, and a 1 MOA can be hard to pick up as you present your gun to the target.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Setting Up Your Red Dot Pistol Sight<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We asked Fisher and Jedlinski about the optimal location for the dot.\u00a0 In front of your rear iron sight or behind the rear sight? What height sights should you run? Are iron sights even needed with a red dot? <\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to Fisher, \u201cPutting your dot in front of the rear sight means you\u2019re to train your eye to look for the red dot first, but putting the red dot in-between the front and rear sight, like you see on the Glock MOS pistols, means you\u2019re going to have less trouble moving back to an iron-sighted pistol when necessary.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jedlinski\u2019s opinion is slightly different. \u201cI don\u2019t really have a preference for dot placement,\u201d he says. &#8220;Placing the dot behind the rear sight is a hardware solution to a software problem.\u201d <\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When it comes to zeroing your dot and the relationship between the red dot and your regular sights, both men agree: let the red dot be a red dot, and let your iron sights be iron sights. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSuppressor height sights, especially the Ameriglo versions, are fine with a red-dot pistol,\u201d says Fisher. \u201cBut they should not have an absolute co-witness with your red dot. You\u2019re negating a good portion of the benefits of having a red dot if you try to make a red dot line up exactly with your irons. \u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jedlinski agrees: \u201cI recommend having iron sights of some kind on any pistol with a red dot. Red dots can fail. Batteries can run out. But there are no electronics involved in a front and rear sight.\u201d He also recommends a minimalist approach to your sights, saying, \u201cYou don\u2019t want to clutter up your field of view with a lot of useless information. Keep your iron sights minimal, with blacked-out front and rear sights so they don\u2019t distract your eyes from the dot.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Training The Red Dot<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_525\" style=\"width: 235px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-magnific_type=\"image\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-525\" class=\"wp-image-525 size-medium\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Setting up a red dot for your pistol\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight-610x813.jpg 610w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight-1080x1440.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight-627x836.jpg 627w, https:\/\/www.ammoman.com\/blog\/media\/red_dot_sight.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-525\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Running a red dot sight takes some practice.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to both trainers, your presentation on the draw (the part of your draw after your gun leaves the holster and is heading towards to the target, but before it goes BANG!) is the key to cracking the code of the red dot pistol. <\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIron sights let you be sloppy, as the gun and the sights are always in your peripheral,\u201d Jedlinski said.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWith a dot, the presentation has to efficiently guide the dot to your dominant eye. You can\u2019t cheat your way into a good sight picture with a dot. For it to work as well as possible, your presentation needs to be smooth and level so your eyes pick up the dot as your gun is headed towards to the target.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fisher agrees: \u201cKeeping the gun flat on the presentation is the key. If your presentation is lousy with iron sights, it\u2019s going to be even worse with a red dot. Don\u2019t set up your sight picture with your iron sights. Focus on the target, then bring the gun up to meet your eyes. Also, don\u2019t wait and try to over-verify that the dot is on the target. It the dot looks like it\u2019s where it\u2019s supposed to be, shoot!\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Practicing The Red Dot<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Finally, both Jedlinski and Fisher agree that mitigating the recoil of your gun and a stable shooting position are essential to running a red dot pistol at speed. <\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou\u2019re not going to be strong enough to hold the gun perfectly flat under recoil,\u201d says Fisher. \u201cThe gun is going to lift, so what matters is that once it\u2019s done moving, it comes back to the same position relative to your eyes as quickly as possible, and those are controlled by setting up a good natural point of aim, combined with a good shooting stance.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou mitigate recoil with structure, not strength,\u201d says Jedlinski. \u201cUse a good, stable stance and a firm grip on the gun to get the dot back into your line of sight as quickly as possible.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Is Red Dot Better Than Your Iron Sights?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The question still remains: is a red dot sight a good idea for you? If your eyesight is starting to fail and a clear front sight picture is only a distant memory, maybe it\u2019s time for you to look at topping your pistol with a red dot. Maybe your eyesight is fine and you want to extend the effective range of your handgun. Or maybe you just like the latest and greatest gadgets out there and want to be ahead of the curve when it comes to firearms innovations. No matter your motivation, red dot defensive pistols are clearly no longer a niche market, but are instead becoming a viable choice for the beginning shooter.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Beginner&#8217;s Guide To Red Dot Pistol Sights Red dot sights on pistols have been a feature in competitive pistol shooting since the mid-&#8217;90s. Competitors quickly grasped how a red dot can help with accuracy and fast transition from target to target. 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